Untangling the Mess Video Presentation

Since the release of my book Walking the Bridgeless Canyon in October 2014, I have presented findings and research from the book to thousands of people in churches, denominational Untangling the Messheadquarters, universities and high schools, PFLAGS, conferences,  private board and church leader meetings, and government organizations throughout the U.S. and recently in Australia and New Zealand.

Using a unique teaching tool, I present the history of cultural and religious discrimination of the LGBT community in the U.S. along a 20 foot-long timeline placed on the wall. in the overview overview, I show the interconnectedness of ancient views of human sexuality and the roles of men and women, the beginnings of the understanding of sexual orientation, the impact of psychoanalysis, cultural influences, the beginnings of fundamentalism, the merger of religion and politics and finally, the scriptural passage dealing with same-sex behavior.


Without exception, at the end of every presentation, attendees wish they had brought along family members, friends and even their pastors to listen and learn. The teaching is accessible, powerful and appeals to the various learning methods. Everyone learns something and many people are challenged about what they were sure they knew as truth. (Read what people say about the presentation.)

Untangling the Mess Presentation , Kathy Baldock

Teaching denominational leaders in New Zealand

The information is solid. I spent several years researching and refining the presentation. I constantly read and stay up-to-date with more information.

The video is long; this is the shortest time I can handle the topic adequately. It is commitment to invest 88 minutes of your time to listen. I do Untangling the Messappreciate that. As a funny aside, I recall when Matthew Vines sent me his video in March 2012 when it had less than 200 views. I thought, “Sixty-eight minutes!? Who has time for that?” I watched, and kept watching. I hope you’ll feel the same about this video.

I prefer to teach over a 6 hour timeframe, but this 88 minute video is a good overview. If, after watching the video, you want more, think about attending a full presentation or reading Walking the Bridgeless Canyon (also on Amazon)In April, I published a nine-week study guide for the book. It, too, is accessible and gracious in tone. If you need bulk numbers of the book or study guide for your group, you can get them discounted on this website.


If you need to break it into chunks, here are some good breaks:

00 to 25:40 

Same-sex behavior and homosexuality in history and in the culture
Early understanding of same-sex behavior
The “discovery” of heterosexuality and homosexuality
How did heterosexuality become the “good” sex?
Historical terms about same-sex attracted people and the link to views on women

25:41 to 41:30

How did homosexuality come to be understood as a mental illness?
Gays in the American culture from the 1940s to the 1960s

41:30 to 52:25

The roots of Fundamentalism
The need to galvanize unregistered blocs of Fundamentalists in the mid-1970s
Conservative voters and gay activists rise in response to actions by Anita Bryant
The AIDS crisis in the 1980s and the response of the American public and Christian church
52:25 to 1:28

Leviticus 18 and 20
Romans 1
1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy
Looking at the verses in 1611, 1946, 1971, and 1996



Periodically, I will be answering questions and linking the responses here. It will save me time and ensure a faster turn-around time on responses. As you share the video and your family, friends and pastors come back to you with a string of “yeah-buts,” send me the question at Kathy@CanyonwalkerConnections.com using “Untangling the Mess question” in the subject line. When I respond, I will send you the link for you to pass on.

The source of all questions will remain anonymous.

I care deeply about education, research, inclusion, equality, discipleship and will maintain a gracious tone in all my communications.




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